Bungi Bill

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  Good news, finally regarding my ex-elder-pedophile-father-in-law...

  by misguided in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  about two weeks ago he was arested in bc, about 35 years too late thanks to wts cover-up.. he had a baby with my ex-husband's sister - my kids have a cousin who is also their aunt.

  this was all covered up by moving from ontario to bc back in the early 1980s, and it all being hidden by the wts; even allowing this guy to serve as an elder after the fact...when i got married to my ex, his father was an elder, and the baby of the incest was 15. .

  today and from now on, hopefully things will unravell for the wts in canada, as he sits in jail in ontario (where the crimes were committed)charged on 24 counts of sexual abuse.. i hope there is a lot of embarrassment going on in that congregation in ladner, bc when all this originally came to light about 28 years ago, the congregation that let this man become an elder...because, my own parents seem to be in "cover-my-ass" mode when it comes to talking about this matter with me..

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  Bungi Bill

  NOLAW,

  You surely cannot be serious!

  What would you do, then:

  - let this abomination roam free, so that he can go on preying defenseless children?

  He is up on 24 charges - and these are only the ones they know about. How many other such crimes has he committed?. And more importantly, how many more would he commit if allowed to go free, as you are suggesting?

  What sort of a s*&t country would take no action against such a hazard to the community? When he gets locked up, I hope that they throw the bloody key away!

  Bill.
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  2011 Yearbook= BEARDS are still for non-Witnesses ONLY!!!! Beard Fear?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1960's the watchtower pictures showed jesus clean shaven and with short hair {watch 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?

  ....because he is shown that way in representations that are older than the traditional effeminate looking pictures..."}.

  yearbook 2011 p.57 "a bearded man named eric showed up at a congregation in the united states {oh god a bearded man!!!

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  Bungi Bill

  Just as an aside to this one:

  - if p.117 of the yearbook does actually use the term "Papa Nu-Guinea", then the level of education amongst the JWs has indeed plumbed to new depths!

  Ever since gaining independence in 1975, that country has been known as "Papua New Guinea." Previously, it was known as the Territory of Papua and New Guinea; and prior to 1945, it consisted of (i) Papua (which was Australian territory), and (ii) the Mandated Territory of New Guinea (a former German colony, Australian-administered after WWI, under a League of Nations Mandate).

  But "Papa Nu-Guinea" - never!

  Bill.
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  2011 Yearbook= BEARDS are still for non-Witnesses ONLY!!!! Beard Fear?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1960's the watchtower pictures showed jesus clean shaven and with short hair {watch 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower books now show jesus with short hair and no beard?

  ....because he is shown that way in representations that are older than the traditional effeminate looking pictures..."}.

  yearbook 2011 p.57 "a bearded man named eric showed up at a congregation in the united states {oh god a bearded man!!!

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  Bungi Bill

  p.117 Papua New Guinea:

  - Having lived there for long enough, I know for a fact that most Papua New Guinean men wear beards. This includes their previous (and long serving) Prime Minister, Michael Somare; as well as most of the country's top business and professional men.

  Yet, true to form, the JWs enforce the no beards rule in that country, too.

  Bill.
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  Did you experience classdivision while being JW?

  by Cirkeline in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all know how jw brag about their strong internal love.

  all are treated equal no matter rank, color, money, status etc.

  is this really true?

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  Bungi Bill

  Class division - certainly!:

  - Much of it having to do with that column, entitled "Hours" , in the Monthly Field Service Report Form.

  Bill.
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  Examples of Fredrick Franz Horrible personality.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in he's nephews book i could not believe some of the things he mentions.

  when his father died fred franz told his mother he could not go to the funeral because he was just too busy at bethel.

  she spoke to rutherford who ordered him to go.

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  Bungi Bill

  Jookbeard,

  Maybe the best two things about the late F.W. Franz was his face!

  Pistoff,

  Regarding suitable names for this apology for a human being, I run out of unpleasant words with which to describe my feelings towards him.

  Of the printable names that I have heard put forward , "Freddie the Fraud" is the best one I have heard yet!

  Bill.
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  Gutless WTS Leadership From the "Confidentiality" Letter

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the letter leaked today on "confidentiality" had an infurating set of paragraphs on suicides, attempted suicides, and threatened suicides.

  here is the excerpt.. suicides and attempted or threatened suicides.

  20. at times, judicial committees may deal with someone who is so distraught that he attempts.

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  Bungi Bill

  LostGeneration,

  Ref: Reliance on Blue collar workers in life-threatening situations:

  While often-times practical experience can - to a degree at least - offset for lack of formal qualifications, dealing with suicidal people is not one of those situations!

  Murphy's Law No.7 reads "Experience gained is in direct proportion to the amount of equipment destroyed" (incidentally, something that I - as a busted @$$ electrician, who is sometimes thrust into an engineering role - can relate to!):

  - When you are dealing with human life, though, you simply don't have that luxury (i.e. of being able to "destroy equipment").

  Being able to run a faultless vertical or overhead arc-weld is of no use whatsoever in handling a person who has tried to commit suicide (all of 20 years old when this happened):

  - nor, for that matter, is consistently putting in a Field Service Report with 10 or more hours in that column entitled "Hours!"

  Bill.
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  Watchtower Dec 2011 Makes fun of fools who think the end is 2012. Ironic??

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wachtower dec 1 2011 p.10 "french village faces influx of apocalypse believers...they believe the world will end 21 december 2012 when the end of....ancient maya calander...despite predictions by calamity-howling religious leaders, pseudoscientists, and any other prognosticators, earth will be in existence for a long time...when will this occur?

  no human knows.

  jehovah's witnesses do not try to predict when god will destroy the wicked...{really?

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  Bungi Bill

  Once more, the WTS tries to rewrite its own history.

  Sadly, if you didn't know any better, a person could be inclined to believe them.

  Billl.
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  Gutless WTS Leadership From the "Confidentiality" Letter

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the letter leaked today on "confidentiality" had an infurating set of paragraphs on suicides, attempted suicides, and threatened suicides.

  here is the excerpt.. suicides and attempted or threatened suicides.

  20. at times, judicial committees may deal with someone who is so distraught that he attempts.

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  Bungi Bill

  On reading this, I felt my flashpoint lower itself by several tens of degrees Celsius!:

  - it brought back painful memories of the rough way in which my daughter was treated by the elders, after her attempted suicide (an event brought about by the death by accident of her 16 year old brother).

  Held in judgement by a panel of "The Unlettered and Ordinary" (consisting of a boilermaker, a swimming pool cleaner, and the inevitable window cleaner), they nearly completed what her brother's death had initiated.

  What else can you expect from a lot that cares not one jot for the welfare of the R&F!

  Bill.
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  Cyber-Bullies

  by Lady Lee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as a kid i got bullied a lot.

  i was taller than all the kids in the class.

  i wore funny clothes - usually hand-me-downs from somewhere or just plain ugly.

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  Bungi Bill

  cantleave,

  I have re-sent that PM to you, successfully this time!

  Bill.
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  Cyber-Bullies

  by Lady Lee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as a kid i got bullied a lot.

  i was taller than all the kids in the class.

  i wore funny clothes - usually hand-me-downs from somewhere or just plain ugly.

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  Bungi Bill

  Further to the matter of dealing with bullies; I long ago learned (and by the the hard way) that the only way to deal with this abomination is to face the #%$&*>ds down!

  As a manager of a roughneck crew in an isolated area of a violence-prone Third World Country, I frequently had to deal with bullying in the workplace. "Ignoring" the matter - and thereby hoping the bully would lose interest and go away - was never going to work! Rather, the perpetrator had to be called to account and faced down:

  - on one memorable occassion (not!), "facing down" included the business-end of an M-16 rifle. Briefly, when the culprit was called into my office to receive a formal written warning, he decided that my skull was going to look better with a three pound hammer driven through it. Somehow, the duty security officer and I managed to disarm this #@$%; then get him to leave the plant - after which the gates were securely locked behind him. He then took to the bush, went on the rampage, and at one point the police had him actually lined up in the sights of an M-16.

  So..... on this discussion board, when somebody attempts to bully me (as has happened) , I will likewise face them down:

  - and without apology, call them barking bloody mad to their face; if that is what they are being.

  Bill.